Help concerning program changes

MIDI Target Manufacturer(s): Roland

Hi all,

   Absolute newbie to Mididesigner but I gotta say the potential looks amazing. Unfortunately I've immediately hit a stumbling block and hope someone can point me in the right direction.

  Basically I have a Roland sound module connected to a Studiologic SL73 master keyboard. The SL sends out four different zones to the module.

  My MD build I've started is pretty simple......I have four volume faders for the different zones with an on off 'mute' for each zone. This works fine.

   The next part of the build was to have a set of buttons to send a performance/program change to the module for another set of four programs. Again this works fine changing.

   Here though the problem starts, when I change performance/program from piano to electric piano, all four zones become live again so I thought ok, I'll put a subcontrol on the program change buttons that will set the on off buttons to off so im just left with a single program until I press the other 3 zones in when needed. Again that part worked but for one thing.....

Now the sound module doesnt get the program change it just stays on the same performance. If I take out the subcontrol mutes the performance change works again.

  Can anybody point me in the right direction as to where its going wrong as I simply dont understand why this is the case. Greatly appreciated.

  Heres a pic of the build so far, would love to get over this stumbling block so I can carry on.

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asked Feb 19, 2019 in Basic by wayne-readhead (120 points)

So my I initial thought is that your subcontrols buttons should be momentary instead of toggle. Are they set to toggle?

commented Feb 19, 2019 by MIDI Designer Team (Mitch)

Thanks for the reply.
No they are set to momentary...

commented Feb 19, 2019 by wayne-readhead (120 points)

Will you upload your layout? Or email it to Mitch@mididesigner.com? I think I could understand the problem if I can see the layout.

commented Feb 19, 2019 by MIDI Designer Team (Mitch)

That would be awesome, I've emailed you the layout. Thankyou so much for your time.

commented Feb 21, 2019 by wayne-readhead (120 points)

Okay Wayne I took a look at your layout and I think a starting solution would be to set the on/off switches to toggle, then add a super control knob for each of these on off groups. The supercontrol knob will allow for only the on or the off switch to be engaged at once, and you can hide these knobs in since you wont actually be turning them in advanced - Hide in Play Mode.

commented Feb 21, 2019 by MIDI Designer Team (Mitch)

Hi Mitch, sorry for delayed replied, I gig in the swiss alps and have been basically up a mountain the last couple of days!!.. Thankyou so much for looking , I will hopefully have my set up in situ to try this out tomorrow..

commented Feb 24, 2019 by wayne-readhead (120 points)

Hi there, so am sat down with this again and seem to not be getting anywhere. As far as setting up a super control to switch off the parts, I have tried but really cannot go any further with that because as soon as i make the patch change switches (piano, electric piano buttons) anything more than a program change switch......they stop working! Ive been using the 'send test' and my module picks up the program change message......I make the piano button a super control and send test and still module still receives a midi message..
     But then when I come out of design mode into play mode.....no midi message is sending to module.
   I realise its something to do with making the patch change buttons super controls to mute 2 of the four patches but why would that stop the button sending the patch change??? Switch off super control and they send patch changes but all 4 sounds are unmuted.
    Struggling here, any help or advice would be appreciated

commented Feb 28, 2019 by wayne-readhead (120 points)
reshown Feb 28, 2019 by MIDI Designer Team (Mitch)

Thanks, so from what I understand when you make a control a supercontrol it no longer sends its own value? If this is the case it is because supercontrols default to not sending a value only changing other controls. You can change this by going to the supwrcontrols relationship tab and selecting options as Super - send own value

commented Feb 28, 2019 by MIDI Designer Team (Mitch)

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