Does Supercontrol always need midi range 0-127?

Question

MIDI Target Manufacturer(s): Roland

Hi, I’m new here and working a few days with midi designer pro 2.

My first target is building a dream midi controller for the boss katana who got full midi accessible through the primova midx20, a device that allows manipulating all midi parameters available for the boss katana.

Whatch these vids before reading further.

When building the graphical interface for the modulation section I have CC’s 60-72. 

CC 60 controls which FX will be chosen: value 0 is a chorus, value 1 is a phaser, etc.

The other CC ‘s are shared for different purposes, for example when selecting CC60 value 0 (chorus), CC62 controls low rate for chorus but when CC60 value 10 (compressor) is selected, the CC62 controls sustain. To be able to tell what’s what when composing the graphical interface I considered using smaller knobs on top of bigger knobs with name ticks.

The named ticks represent the different values for each CC (61--72) when selecting a different FX (CC60) . On top of that knob is the knob that actually alters the CC. The big knob in the video controls CC60 and it is a supercontrol for the named ticks controls so the interface changes when selecting the different FX. This way you can read the corresponding CC right values with the right FX, CC60

There is a problem however: this only works when midi range 0-127 is used. The big knob controls the other knob (subcontrols) fluently. Each knob has 36 ticks (there are 36 effects) but when using CC60, midi range values 0-35, I get a different response from the sub controls. 

This only seems to work when using midi range 0-127 and the thing is : the selection of FX is in the range 0-35.

What am I doing wrong here?

Grtz,

Gurbz

Answer 1

Supercontrol stays 0-127, subcontrol gets another range

MIDI Target Manufacturer(s): Roland

I solved it I think, I noticed I got the results when I kept the supercontrol (big knob video) at range 0-127 and changed the sub control to range 0-35. I have to check if this subcontrol sends the right midi data. If not the case I have a different solution ready: adding an extra knob for sending value 0-35 next to the supercontrol.

I do love automation though so less is more

Answer 2

Supercontrol stays 0-127, subcontrol gets another range

MIDI Target Manufacturer(s): Roland

I solved it I think, I noticed I got the results when I kept the supercontrol (big knob video) at range 0-127 and changed the sub control to range 0-35. I have to check if this subcontrol sends the right midi data. If not the case I have a different solution ready: adding an extra knob for sending value 0-35 next to the supercontrol.

I do love automation though so less is more

Answer 3

Hey there, I haven't seen any of the videos but I'll explain this topic a bit (and maybe it's the right one):

A supercontrol's range determines which portion of the subcontrol's range is hit. The subcontrol's range is from its MIDI Min to its MIDI Max. The full range is 0 to MIDI-maximum (127 or 14383 or whatever) and you could do as little as two values if you the range is short enough (I think).

Does this help at all? If not, I'll watch all the vids and answer you correctly. Thanks!

Comments

Thanks, I understand how supercontrol affects subcontrols better now!

Answer 4

Hey there, I haven't seen any of the videos but I'll explain this topic a bit (and maybe it's the right one):

A supercontrol's range determines which portion of the subcontrol's range is hit. The subcontrol's range is from its MIDI Min to its MIDI Max. The full range is 0 to MIDI-maximum (127 or 14383 or whatever) and you could do as little as two values if you the range is short enough (I think).

Does this help at all? If not, I'll watch all the vids and answer you correctly. Thanks!