How to make wide-width Tabs?

Question

I've seen wide width tabs in many layouts. So, how it is done? I havent found the option anywhere.

Answer 1

Short answer: you need to use the Glow look (More -> Config -> Options -> Global Display Version) to get the newer, wider tabs. This will change all your controls to the newest version. You can then change each control to the old version, but you shouldn't do that. The new version is hard to get used to, but it really is superior in every way...

One huge advantage: Display Zero (part of the EFP, so you need to buy that)

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Comments

Thank you Dan! I'm closer right now! Take a look here: https://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?16953-Voicelive-3-HUD-Controller-for-IOS

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Wow, that's exciting, and you've got users! Let me know if you'd like us to share anything, or we could do an article at mididesigner.com/blog... several ways to go. You're still working on this, right?

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Of course, still working on it. I tried to PM you a few days ago (using your website) but I'll try again.

The Voicelive 3 is a great device to operate thru an iPad over USB... such a pity It's developers never seen all this potential to give a step forward into a future in which tablets can function as an effective substitute for the screens of hardware devices, or at least as an useful complement to extend its functionallity.

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Well, they've provided a MIDI implementation, right? Please hit me up at dan [at] mididesigner [dot] com and we can discuss. Weird about the website, I'll have to check what's up.

Thanks!
Dan

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Many of us are eagerly awaiting this implementation for the VLX3!

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A tiny MIDI implementation, but I think I've exploted it to the maximum.
I'll write you ASAP.

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Thank you Derek. I have been working in a new tab dedicated to Harmony. Now the Key/Scale can be selected easily, and it looks cool too! I'll post a screenshot in the Music-group forum (link posted above)

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@Ed when you feel like you're at a stable version 1 (or even version 0.1), I'd love to get it on this site as a share as well. Let me know when the pieces are ready, or perhaps I've missed something and you're already sharing?

Thanks and congrats on the Doubletree advances!

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TY! It was a hard day's night! ;-)
Still not sharing nowhere, and of course this will be the first and only site site (besides the MDP2 app) from which it will be downloaded. I've had a lot of work this week, but I think tomorrow afternoon I will be able to have some time do the lastest tests before send you a decent version 1.0.

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Sounds great, Ed. Let me know if you have trouble understanding how to upload your layout and/or screenshots here. We've tried to make it pretty straightforward, and succeeded partially ;)  Please see revamped upload process here: http://mididesigner.com/qa/108/show=5187#a5187

And for images it's largely manual using the same "extra fields" hanging off of questions (or answers)...

Looking forward to this layout, thanks!
Dan

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@Dan Thank you, all tests done. Ready to upload, waiting for your answer to the Email I just sent you.

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Yeah, I just realized that you're looking for the non-existent feature in which you can lock layouts for modification. There is no such feature (and I see why that thread was confusing). Sorry about that, but we should really discuss -- and I'd be willing to get on Zoom next week to videochat with you about this -- why you want to do this. Thanks,
Dan

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For the same reason we the musicans don't share our music (even it is free to download music) in a DAW project that anyone can freely modify.
It's an MP3 or a CD track considered "locked" just becouse it's author want it as it is, so isn't "editable" to satisfy individual tastes?
You always could perform a version or a remix, copy the harmony or whatever, but the original remains as it was conceived.
I'm just applying the same considerations here.

Thank you for your invitation to videochat, but my spoken english is really awful. You would run the risk that I do not understand you correctly, and I would run the risk of you thinking that I am a dumb dude who speaks very badly ;-D

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Since you are approaching this as a musician, look at it this way:
The drummer doesn't give a rip about your sax, and you probably have little interest in his kit, either. But there may be some things that you may find interesting or useful, no matter your musical differences. You might end up using the same IEM's, throne, or possibly a light, just because they work for the both of you.

On the flip side, there is a lot more stuff that you do not have in common, like mic's, pads, stands, etc. The same applies to the MIDI controller. It may be aces for you, but the appeal is that it can be modified to fit the needs of other musicians who might care more about features that you haven't made very prominent, and can discard things that they wouldn't ever use. That's what a designer app is all about. Find what you like and incorporate it and declutter the screen from things that you don't.

After all, you wouldn't want the drummer to dictate the tools that you have to use on stage. If you were to lock the design, you are doing exactly what TC-Helicon did that you didn't like - making you use it the exact way that they designed it. The beauty is that you have found a way to do it another way - a way that works better for you - but maybe not optimally for someone else. Why do what TC-Helicon did and force other people to do it only your way? Share it and let others enjoy the ability to use your design as a launching point to their own freedom. You make a better name for yourself doing it that way than TC-H's way!

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Good point, Derek. I can make a simpler version as a open layout as launching point where everyone can delete my name and put his own on there and modifty it freely, while I keep my final layout (thats is custom taylored to me) as my personal version, where I have dedicated more than 50 hours to make it looks as it does.
In fact, all 27 CC's and Bank/Program Changes fits in a single MDP2 Tab. In this way, everyone should be able to do what they want and I'll don't care about this anymore. (I even planned to make a PDF manual for my layout, which would have taken me much longer)

Back in 2013, I designed a full implemented MCU (Mackie Control Unit) layout in the Lemur IOS App. It was amazing and aparently nobody has been able to make something similar since then. I've payed about 49€  for the Lemur app (plus more than 70 hours of my time, researching, learning, and designing my own controller), but again, there was no way to lock the layout, so it never saw the light apart from my own use. I'm sure there's thousands of amazing layouts out there way better than most of the "user layouts" you can freely download from the Lemur site, just becouse this same reason: the author's hard work is not properly protected, so they're keeping their work for themselves.
It seems quite logical that someone might think that after paying for one of the most expensive apps in the store (at the time, Lemur cost 49€), and having spent tens of hours designing a complex layout, having to leave it open for anyone delete his name and modify it while the company Liine earn much more money at its expense because other hundreds of users will buy Lemur for the only reason that there is that beautiful layout that some altruistic user did.

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz46/Ed_Saxman/IMG_0042_zpsce870a7c.png
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz46/Ed_Saxman/IMG_0046_zps875bf732.png
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz46/Ed_Saxman/IMG_0043_zps7b889faa.png
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz46/Ed_Saxman/IMG_0044_zpsd3b6ae63.png
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz46/Ed_Saxman/IMG_0045_zpsbb27ff0b.png

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I still don't understand your reluctance to post your implementation. You knew from the start that you could never sell it, so what does it matter if people change anything about it?

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I make Jazz/Funk Music that I knew from the start that I could never sell, but that not means I share my Logic X projects, but in MP3 format that is not editable. I also take each work to the intellectual property registry so that there is no doubt about its authorship. In any case, I acknowledge that this has been my fault for not informing me properly before I even announced anything. I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.

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Music is not software. Software is not music. You can't connect the two in use or rights of use. You aren't posting your notes, you are posting a finished implementation, the same as a finished musical work. You are trying to relate apples to oranges, and it really doesn't compute.

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Well, I might like to see the VL3 Editor source code, change every aspect I dislike, compile it by myself and put my name there, but instead I payed for a full license which does not even work properly on OS X and never saw a single update to fix the numerous bugs it have, but neverthless I don't blame the developer for not publish his work as open source software like many of us would like.

In order not to lengthen this discussion any further, I would like the MDP2 developer to at least consider the possibility of studying some way to upload non-editable templates, since I am not the only user who has ever demanded this. Honestly I think that denying this possibility is the efficent cause by wich many users do not share their hard work.

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Hi guys, thanks for the conversation. Ed, you say: "Honestly I think that denying this possibility is the efficent [sic] cause by wich [sic] many users do not share their hard work." I'm aware of just about every single thing said about MIDI Designer on the Internet, Facebook, Twitter, forums, etc., and I've seen NO evidence of users holding back their layouts because they're worried that... what IS the fear here? That you'll lose your authorship cred? That's the ONLY thing we've managed to protect (with no effort nor safeguards at all). Take a hard look at the THOUSANDS of hours that users have put into the PLATINUM community layouts. Everybody knows what Ibo Kai did, what Helfried did, what Rainer did, Popup did, etc.... there's never been an attempt at.. what? Somebody claiming credit so they could get a job working at some company? What are we worried about here?

"I made that Ed Saxman layout!"
"No man, I made that layout!"
"Let's settle this outside!"

Share your layout with the World TO PROVIDE SOMETHING USEFUL TO OTHER PEOPLE and make the world a better, more creative place.

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Well, to say that there was probably no need to highlight my misspellings in the language of the empire. Good thing you have not heard me speak! ;-)
I have not been angry about it, sometimes I do not look much at spelling when I write fast. And usually I fix it as soon as I realize it.

I appreciate the email that you just sent me, I like that content much more than this message, where it may seem to whoever reads this thread that who is somewhat angry is you.

Either way, I'm glad that my suggestion is taken into consideration, and that it may be implemented in the future, thank you, Dan.

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Thanks Ed, and really, the main point is to enjoy MIDI Designer. If you create something that you want other people to enjoy, we've provided a basic sharing functionality. We'll definitely look into the option of locking authorship for layouts as you've kindly suggested.

Have a great weekend, best!
Dan

Dan Rosenstark
Author & CEO, MIDI Designer
dream | create | play

Answer 2

Short answer: you need to use the Glow look (More -> Config -> Options -> Global Display Version) to get the newer, wider tabs. This will change all your controls to the newest version. You can then change each control to the old version, but you shouldn't do that. The new version is hard to get used to, but it really is superior in every way...

One huge advantage: Display Zero (part of the EFP, so you need to buy that)

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